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Vandraren wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 pm I have been really inactive in here so far, but I occasionally comment on stories in AO3, when I have the time. But I have been working on a story (mainly research, but a teeny tiny little bit of writing too) for some time now and I could really use some input. It's just that I am also terrified that someone might pick up on my idea and write something similar. Not that I wouldn't love to read that. But I am afraid of what that might do to my already extremely slow, insecure writing process. However, I have decided that keeping it to myself is not helping anymore either. Maybe discussing the idea with others might be just what I need to get this baby properly under way! And if someone decides to use the idea, well, then I will have to learn to deal with that and embrace the challenge.

Anyway, I got the idea when I was rewatching Titanic two years ago. A North-and-South-adapted-Titanic-ish-story? Why has this never been done before? Put two people on a long sea voyage together and boom! I got really obsessed with early transatlantic steam liners and researched them a lot. It's fascinating! I even visited several historic ships from the mid-19th century in England (where I don't live). Nerdy as I am, I really know my stuff now. As for the plot... it has come along, but not as much as my researching Victorian Atlantic crossings.

What I know is that the story takes place four years after the end of the book. Margaret and John are both on the same steam ship to New York without knowing it. Of course they meet and their love is rekindled, sparks fly and the ship almost sinks. These early Victorian liners where of course very different from ships like the Titanic. For starters, there was often only a first and second class (from what I can find out, the people who would have been in steerage could still only afford sailing ships), the few ladies travelling alone where kept separate from the gents as much as possible and the ship was obviously not as luxurious as later ones, even though they tried to make them a lot more comfortable than earlier vessels traversing the big oceans. But I am thinking of bending a lot of the rules, also to give Margaret and John the possibility of chance encounters. I am probably also romanticizing early steam ships a lot, even though Dickens hated his own journey on the RMS Britannia to Halifax so much, that he took a sailing ship on his way back to England. However John and Margaret are going to be travelling on a later, slightly bigger ship.

The story still has some huge plot holes. Like why Margaret and John are on the ship in the first place. I am thinking Margaret is travelling to aid her brother, maybe he had to relocate to America somewhere or she is trying to locate a witness for his trial. But I still haven't decided if Henry should be going too, as juridical help and escort to Margaret (and because he promises himself to finally win her over). Having him there would complicate things for John and Margaret, but also provide more drama, just like in Titanic. John on the other hand is travelling on business, though not for his own mill obviously, since it had to close. So he is travelling second class, while Margaret travels first class. So far I have only written the beginning of the journey from Margaret's point of view, with Henry being there, as well as Edith and Maxwell (they just love to travel), but I might still write them out. At first I had Margaret engaged to Henry, but I changed that. So far she has seen John from afar on the upper deck (but is not sure if it is him), though he has not seen her yet. I did have the idea to include a young woman travelling as a stowaway, whom Margaret discovers and feeds during the journey (giving her a reason to sneak around down in the hold, where John follows and confronts her). The ship they are travelling on eventually collides with an ice-berg (which actually happened to my intended vessel), but does not sink. But I would really like them to think that they might die, so that Margaret and John have to face their feelings and desire for each other. It is very tempting to also let them have a Jack-and-Rose-in-the-car-moment in some dark corner of the ship, but I don't think I can pull that off, since we are still in the Victorian era. Maybe I can write that later once the story is complete. IF I ever manage to complete it.

So, what do you think? No offence if you really hate the idea! It is a bit far fetched, but not completely impossible either. It is a bit of a project for someone who has not written more than (unfinished & unpublished) one-shots and is terribly insecure. Besides, I work with children, so I have no head space left at all after work (respect to all of you parents and teachers out there, finding time to write fanfiction!). Writing therefore only happens occasionally on the weekends. The odds are not great. But hope remains!

If you have any thoughts or ideas, feel free to share them with me :) I could really use some encouragement :grouphug

Have a lovely weekend, where ever you are all scattered :bighug
Hey, Vandraren. Thank you to write this. I love this idea very much and would love to read it. 😃 :loveeyes I remember that when I was a teenager I was obsessed with ships too and I very liked Titanic movie too (now not more anymore). I can assure you that this idea wasn't yet wrote there in N&S fandom and so you're first who will do it. I think it's wonderful and definitely no one will steal it from you, so don't worry. :up We are here full with our own ideas which to write. :lol

Anyway, I want to say big thank you that you didn't made Margaret engaged with Henry. It's just I hate to read N&S stories where Margaret is engaged with Henry or she is married to him or another man and vice versa the same thing with John too. It's just too dramatic for me. Well, please, don't be offend. I love and I like some dramatic in stories, but just not like this. You can make to misunderstanding like John see Margaret with Henry (or another man) and he will think then that she's lost to him forever, that she loves another and etc. And vice versa with Margaret. I hope you understand my mean. This is what I like to read in stories. I just explain my POV to this. :blush

I will very waiting when you'll be ready to post it, 'cuz I really want read it and I hope that you'll be able to manage write and finish it. 🥰

Fingers crossed and thank you that you shared your story idea! 😉👍
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Vandraren wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 pm I have been really inactive in here so far, but I occasionally comment on stories in AO3, when I have the time. But I have been working on a story (mainly research, but a teeny tiny little bit of writing too) for some time now and I could really use some input. It's just that I am also terrified that someone might pick up on my idea and write something similar. Not that I wouldn't love to read that. But I am afraid of what that might do to my already extremely slow, insecure writing process. However, I have decided that keeping it to myself is not helping anymore either. Maybe discussing the idea with others might be just what I need to get this baby properly under way! And if someone decides to use the idea, well, then I will have to learn to deal with that and embrace the challenge.

Anyway, I got the idea when I was rewatching Titanic two years ago. A North-and-South-adapted-Titanic-ish-story? Why has this never been done before? Put two people on a long sea voyage together and boom! I got really obsessed with early transatlantic steam liners and researched them a lot. It's fascinating! I even visited several historic ships from the mid-19th century in England (where I don't live). Nerdy as I am, I really know my stuff now. As for the plot... it has come along, but not as much as my researching Victorian Atlantic crossings.

What I know is that the story takes place four years after the end of the book. Margaret and John are both on the same steam ship to New York without knowing it. Of course they meet and their love is rekindled, sparks fly and the ship almost sinks. These early Victorian liners where of course very different from ships like the Titanic. For starters, there was often only a first and second class (from what I can find out, the people who would have been in steerage could still only afford sailing ships), the few ladies travelling alone where kept separate from the gents as much as possible and the ship was obviously not as luxurious as later ones, even though they tried to make them a lot more comfortable than earlier vessels traversing the big oceans. But I am thinking of bending a lot of the rules, also to give Margaret and John the possibility of chance encounters. I am probably also romanticizing early steam ships a lot, even though Dickens hated his own journey on the RMS Britannia to Halifax so much, that he took a sailing ship on his way back to England. However John and Margaret are going to be travelling on a later, slightly bigger ship.

The story still has some huge plot holes. Like why Margaret and John are on the ship in the first place. I am thinking Margaret is travelling to aid her brother, maybe he had to relocate to America somewhere or she is trying to locate a witness for his trial. But I still haven't decided if Henry should be going too, as juridical help and escort to Margaret (and because he promises himself to finally win her over). Having him there would complicate things for John and Margaret, but also provide more drama, just like in Titanic. John on the other hand is travelling on business, though not for his own mill obviously, since it had to close. So he is travelling second class, while Margaret travels first class. So far I have only written the beginning of the journey from Margaret's point of view, with Henry being there, as well as Edith and Maxwell (they just love to travel), but I might still write them out. At first I had Margaret engaged to Henry, but I changed that. So far she has seen John from afar on the upper deck (but is not sure if it is him), though he has not seen her yet. I did have the idea to include a young woman travelling as a stowaway, whom Margaret discovers and feeds during the journey (giving her a reason to sneak around down in the hold, where John follows and confronts her). The ship they are travelling on eventually collides with an ice-berg (which actually happened to my intended vessel), but does not sink. But I would really like them to think that they might die, so that Margaret and John have to face their feelings and desire for each other. It is very tempting to also let them have a Jack-and-Rose-in-the-car-moment in some dark corner of the ship, but I don't think I can pull that off, since we are still in the Victorian era. Maybe I can write that later once the story is complete. IF I ever manage to complete it.

So, what do you think? No offence if you really hate the idea! It is a bit far fetched, but not completely impossible either. It is a bit of a project for someone who has not written more than (unfinished & unpublished) one-shots and is terribly insecure. Besides, I work with children, so I have no head space left at all after work (respect to all of you parents and teachers out there, finding time to write fanfiction!). Writing therefore only happens occasionally on the weekends. The odds are not great. But hope remains!

If you have any thoughts or ideas, feel free to share them with me :) I could really use some encouragement :grouphug

Have a lovely weekend, where ever you are all scattered :bighug
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Lovely to hear from you. I know what you mean about not wanting to share your idea in case it gets used but I think there are many similar fics and that's ok. I have read another with J and M on a ship voyage though not a titanic type tale. I personally don't mind far fetched and a little poetic license. I do like your idea though being engaged to henry is against the rules 🤣
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Vandraren wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 pm I have been really inactive in here so far, but I occasionally comment on stories in AO3, when I have the time. But I have been working on a story (mainly research, but a teeny tiny little bit of writing too) for some time now and I could really use some input. It's just that I am also terrified that someone might pick up on my idea and write something similar. Not that I wouldn't love to read that. But I am afraid of what that might do to my already extremely slow, insecure writing process. However, I have decided that keeping it to myself is not helping anymore either. Maybe discussing the idea with others might be just what I need to get this baby properly under way! And if someone decides to use the idea, well, then I will have to learn to deal with that and embrace the challenge.

Anyway, I got the idea when I was rewatching Titanic two years ago. A North-and-South-adapted-Titanic-ish-story? Why has this never been done before? Put two people on a long sea voyage together and boom! I got really obsessed with early transatlantic steam liners and researched them a lot. It's fascinating! I even visited several historic ships from the mid-19th century in England (where I don't live). Nerdy as I am, I really know my stuff now. As for the plot... it has come along, but not as much as my researching Victorian Atlantic crossings.

What I know is that the story takes place four years after the end of the book. Margaret and John are both on the same steam ship to New York without knowing it. Of course they meet and their love is rekindled, sparks fly and the ship almost sinks. These early Victorian liners where of course very different from ships like the Titanic. For starters, there was often only a first and second class (from what I can find out, the people who would have been in steerage could still only afford sailing ships), the few ladies travelling alone where kept separate from the gents as much as possible and the ship was obviously not as luxurious as later ones, even though they tried to make them a lot more comfortable than earlier vessels traversing the big oceans. But I am thinking of bending a lot of the rules, also to give Margaret and John the possibility of chance encounters. I am probably also romanticizing early steam ships a lot, even though Dickens hated his own journey on the RMS Britannia to Halifax so much, that he took a sailing ship on his way back to England. However John and Margaret are going to be travelling on a later, slightly bigger ship.

The story still has some huge plot holes. Like why Margaret and John are on the ship in the first place. I am thinking Margaret is travelling to aid her brother, maybe he had to relocate to America somewhere or she is trying to locate a witness for his trial. But I still haven't decided if Henry should be going too, as juridical help and escort to Margaret (and because he promises himself to finally win her over). Having him there would complicate things for John and Margaret, but also provide more drama, just like in Titanic. John on the other hand is travelling on business, though not for his own mill obviously, since it had to close. So he is travelling second class, while Margaret travels first class. So far I have only written the beginning of the journey from Margaret's point of view, with Henry being there, as well as Edith and Maxwell (they just love to travel), but I might still write them out. At first I had Margaret engaged to Henry, but I changed that. So far she has seen John from afar on the upper deck (but is not sure if it is him), though he has not seen her yet. I did have the idea to include a young woman travelling as a stowaway, whom Margaret discovers and feeds during the journey (giving her a reason to sneak around down in the hold, where John follows and confronts her). The ship they are travelling on eventually collides with an ice-berg (which actually happened to my intended vessel), but does not sink. But I would really like them to think that they might die, so that Margaret and John have to face their feelings and desire for each other. It is very tempting to also let them have a Jack-and-Rose-in-the-car-moment in some dark corner of the ship, but I don't think I can pull that off, since we are still in the Victorian era. Maybe I can write that later once the story is complete. IF I ever manage to complete it.

So, what do you think? No offence if you really hate the idea! It is a bit far fetched, but not completely impossible either. It is a bit of a project for someone who has not written more than (unfinished & unpublished) one-shots and is terribly insecure. Besides, I work with children, so I have no head space left at all after work (respect to all of you parents and teachers out there, finding time to write fanfiction!). Writing therefore only happens occasionally on the weekends. The odds are not great. But hope remains!

If you have any thoughts or ideas, feel free to share them with me :) I could really use some encouragement :grouphug

Have a lovely weekend, where ever you are all scattered :bighug
Oooh, that is one lovely story premise. I hope you will finish it, because I would love to read that, and you are right, I think this has not been done too many times in the N&S fandom - at least not that I would know of. And it sounds just like the kind of drama I would love to read. Having known most of the people on the mill for a good while now, I think I can safely say that no one would purposefully take your story idea, especially if you mentioned that you would feel bad about it. From my experience, everyone here is very supportive of each other and the last thing we want is to get in each other's way so whenever there have been similar stories (which happened in the past) the writers on here talked to each other about it and agreed that they were both fine with that.

I too know what it's like to lose yourself in research. It is a rabbit hole, isn't it? But I feel like I've become an expert on many things in the Victorian era and I would love to learn more about the ships of the time through your story. Actually, just thinking about it makes me all excited. I have always loved Titanic, save for the fact that Jack dies! So I would LOVE to see a happy ending to this one. As for smutty stuff...I think there ARE ways to pull those off, without it being completely OOC for the times...it really depends on the situation you place them in. If it is a life-or-death situation, people might actually be forgiven for acting OOC. But it really depends on the story and the situation. There is also always an option of finishing the story and then going back and writing a variation like: "What would have happened if one small detial had changed?" Pippa has done that with her modern AUs and those variations have been amazing too. I think the cool thing about fanfic, especially AUs is that you are basically free to do almost everything with these characters.

I am looking forward to this! Please do keep writing it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you to be able to finish it. Don't give up. I was really close to tossing my current fic out of the window at least 30 times...and I'm glad I didn't.
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mimosa wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:52 pm What do all think about officially putting in a question mark and an exclamation mark together in a published story on AO3? Grammatically that doesn't work, and you are supposed to pick one or the other. Or your words in a sentence has to convey the tone of the one that you aren't using. That's what I say when I edit a story. BUT....I know that I use them ALL THE TIME in a post or email or whatever. But in a story? I'm so confused. :huh
Thanks for all the background reading on that punctuation mark. I think: use them in an informal sense, like character dialogue or when you're directly addressing the reason. I guess I always interpret that mark as a mix of surprise and incredulity, if that makes sense?

I'm more into descriptive grammar than strict adherence to the style manual - use what works!?!
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Vandraren wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 pm Anyway, I got the idea when I was rewatching Titanic two years ago. A North-and-South-adapted-Titanic-ish-story? Why has this never been done before? Put two people on a long sea voyage together and boom! I got really obsessed with early transatlantic steam liners and researched them a lot. It's fascinating! I even visited several historic ships from the mid-19th century in England (where I don't live). Nerdy as I am, I really know my stuff now. As for the plot... it has come along, but not as much as my researching Victorian Atlantic crossings.
I think that's a really fascinating story outline you've described, and I'm really interested in reading it. (I love stories that go into the nitty gritty of period detail.)

I think... in the time period, it would be unusual for an unmarried woman to be travelling on a ship by herself (unless she were a sponsored emigrant out to the colonies or something like that.) If she were following the strict rules of propriety, she'd want to be travelling with a female relative (like Edith or Mrs Shaw), or a male relative like Captain Lennox, or a paid companion. It's unlikely Henry would have been told off to accompany her without another woman along (because she's young, the lower class Dixon wouldn't be enough.)

But - it's a story, you can bend the rules and make it a plot point. Plus, Margaret is canonically quite brave and adventurous. Looking forward to seeing your story!
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Vandraren wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:56 pm I have been really inactive in here so far, but I occasionally comment on stories in AO3, when I have the time. But I have been working on a story (mainly research, but a teeny tiny little bit of writing too) for some time now and I could really use some input. It's just that I am also terrified that someone might pick up on my idea and write something similar. Not that I wouldn't love to read that. But I am afraid of what that might do to my already extremely slow, insecure writing process. However, I have decided that keeping it to myself is not helping anymore either. Maybe discussing the idea with others might be just what I need to get this baby properly under way! And if someone decides to use the idea, well, then I will have to learn to deal with that and embrace the challenge.

Anyway, I got the idea when I was rewatching Titanic two years ago. A North-and-South-adapted-Titanic-ish-story? Why has this never been done before? Put two people on a long sea voyage together and boom! I got really obsessed with early transatlantic steam liners and researched them a lot. It's fascinating! I even visited several historic ships from the mid-19th century in England (where I don't live). Nerdy as I am, I really know my stuff now. As for the plot... it has come along, but not as much as my researching Victorian Atlantic crossings.

What I know is that the story takes place four years after the end of the book. Margaret and John are both on the same steam ship to New York without knowing it. Of course they meet and their love is rekindled, sparks fly and the ship almost sinks. These early Victorian liners where of course very different from ships like the Titanic. For starters, there was often only a first and second class (from what I can find out, the people who would have been in steerage could still only afford sailing ships), the few ladies travelling alone where kept separate from the gents as much as possible and the ship was obviously not as luxurious as later ones, even though they tried to make them a lot more comfortable than earlier vessels traversing the big oceans. But I am thinking of bending a lot of the rules, also to give Margaret and John the possibility of chance encounters. I am probably also romanticizing early steam ships a lot, even though Dickens hated his own journey on the RMS Britannia to Halifax so much, that he took a sailing ship on his way back to England. However John and Margaret are going to be travelling on a later, slightly bigger ship.

The story still has some huge plot holes. Like why Margaret and John are on the ship in the first place. I am thinking Margaret is travelling to aid her brother, maybe he had to relocate to America somewhere or she is trying to locate a witness for his trial. But I still haven't decided if Henry should be going too, as juridical help and escort to Margaret (and because he promises himself to finally win her over). Having him there would complicate things for John and Margaret, but also provide more drama, just like in Titanic. John on the other hand is travelling on business, though not for his own mill obviously, since it had to close. So he is travelling second class, while Margaret travels first class. So far I have only written the beginning of the journey from Margaret's point of view, with Henry being there, as well as Edith and Maxwell (they just love to travel), but I might still write them out. At first I had Margaret engaged to Henry, but I changed that. So far she has seen John from afar on the upper deck (but is not sure if it is him), though he has not seen her yet. I did have the idea to include a young woman travelling as a stowaway, whom Margaret discovers and feeds during the journey (giving her a reason to sneak around down in the hold, where John follows and confronts her). The ship they are travelling on eventually collides with an ice-berg (which actually happened to my intended vessel), but does not sink. But I would really like them to think that they might die, so that Margaret and John have to face their feelings and desire for each other. It is very tempting to also let them have a Jack-and-Rose-in-the-car-moment in some dark corner of the ship, but I don't think I can pull that off, since we are still in the Victorian era. Maybe I can write that later once the story is complete. IF I ever manage to complete it.

So, what do you think? No offence if you really hate the idea! It is a bit far fetched, but not completely impossible either. It is a bit of a project for someone who has not written more than (unfinished & unpublished) one-shots and is terribly insecure. Besides, I work with children, so I have no head space left at all after work (respect to all of you parents and teachers out there, finding time to write fanfiction!). Writing therefore only happens occasionally on the weekends. The odds are not great. But hope remains!

If you have any thoughts or ideas, feel free to share them with me :) I could really use some encouragement :grouphug

Have a lovely weekend, where ever you are all scattered :bighug
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You’ve had so many lovely comments on this, I will only add a tiny nugget of thought. I’ve had an idea before than another person on here (dear Daisy) wrote and posted before I was finished...and it was 100% fine. Smart creative people all do things differently. Daisy’s story was utterly lovely and all hers. And mine was all mine. The beauty of it was we got more N&S stories in the end. BUT, I don’t think your story idea is likely to occur to too many people as it is, and the N&S fan fiction world is really tiny. Don’t you worry about it. Give yourself space to write the best damn story you have inside you. And if someone does happen to write something similar, carry on. I cannot wait for your story to come to life.

Good luck!
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Wow, so many kind comments and encouraging words!! Thank you soo much everyone, this really means a lot! I thought it would be scary to share my weird idea, but all your comments have given me lots of food for thought. Great food. Mainly desert! The magic of The Mill at Milton :love

Haha, there were at least two people who felt strongly about the engagement to Henry, and I actually agree, it just doesn't work! Now I don't have to think about that option again, so thank you for being honest :)

Also, I have completely lost my fear of someone else making the idea their own. Even if that were to happen, it would be fine, because no two writers create the same kind of story, as several people pointed out. That is so true, I just needed someone else to spell it out to me, haha :smug

Oh Tom, I am so glad you didn't throw your latest story out the window, it is just wonderful! I appreciate every story, they are such a comfort after a hectic day, but I have to admit that I must get better at commenting consistently. I don't always know what to say that hasn't already been said, I put way too much pressure on myself even when commenting and my comments still come out sounding mediocre :rolleyes

So this discord thread... how do I join? I will probably get overwhelmed if people write/chat a lot and just stay silent, but I am very intrigued about the brainstorming :elephant

Thanks again for all the sweet encouragement lovely spinners and weavers, I am so happy I decided to share my idea. The story will definitely not be a great work of art and it will still be a long time in the making, but I promise that I will enjoy myself and make it the best I possibly can. :heart :wave :heart
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Philipaholt wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:05 pm I’ve had an idea before than another person on here (dear Daisy) wrote and posted before I was finished...and it was 100% fine. Smart creative people all do things differently. Daisy’s story was utterly lovely and all hers. And mine was all mine.
Yeah, I still feel bad about that - we were both writing a story to a prompt by someone else, but I hadn't thought to mention to anyone that I was writing it, even after you had. But I agree with you that they were super different stories - even when we had the same event happen in our stories, it came out very differently.
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Vandraren wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:37 pm So this discord thread... how do I join? I will probably get overwhelmed if people write/chat a lot and just stay silent, but I am very intrigued about the brainstorming
You need to download Discord app in your phone store and then create account. Then you can find us there. I'm NorthandSouthArt30#0092 there. Also Pippa made N&S Book Club. She will add you there too when you'll be registering in there. I hope you understand mine explain. 😁😉

I'm so glad that we could help you and I really can't wait for your story! 😃🥰
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DaisyNinjaGirl wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:03 pm
Philipaholt wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:05 pm I’ve had an idea before than another person on here (dear Daisy) wrote and posted before I was finished...and it was 100% fine. Smart creative people all do things differently. Daisy’s story was utterly lovely and all hers. And mine was all mine.
Yeah, I still feel bad about that - we were both writing a story to a prompt by someone else, but I hadn't thought to mention to anyone that I was writing it, even after you had. But I agree with you that they were super different stories - even when we had the same event happen in our stories, it came out very differently.
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Hi all!

Thought I would introduce myself and talk about what's in my Docs folder :) I'm Daisy - yes, another one haha, but it looks like I'll be going by "Lady" here which I'm totally fine with. I started publishing JAFF on Ao3, but have recently become obsessed with J&M and NEED to give them some stories!

I have three N&S fics going right now, one being posted chapter by chapter on AO3 called How She Would Love, in which Margaret falls for John the first time she sees him and has to wrangle her feelings in order to stay sane. Sadly, John has been burned and hates anything like flirtation, so he lumps her blushes in with all the others. I would like to keep it lighter-hearted, so I'm taking the death-toll down to one - is that blasphemy in the N&S world??

Another has Margaret realizing her feelings for John while she is unconscious after her blow the day of the riot. But a very bitter Mrs. Thornton keeps John from proposing. How would things have worked out if they did not have the pain and awkwardness of the rejected proposal keeping them apart? There will be Irishmen, truck sales, lots of John and Nicolas time (one of my fave ships tbh :love ), and a period-inappropriate backrub hehe

And the third (actually the first I started!) is a bit heavier, focusing on the hopelessness of Margaret's growing feelings for John after he tells her that any foolish passions for her are over. <I could cry just thinking about it!!> It's called Ashes and Wine and is based partly on the song of that name by A Fine Frenzy. My one-shot Believe, Hope, Endure is actually the first chapter of this fic in the long scheme of things.

Will I ever finish any of them? One of them, yes, just because I've already started posting, but no guarantees on the other two :rofl
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AnotherLady wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:59 am Hi all!

Thought I would introduce myself and talk about what's in my Docs folder :) I'm Daisy - yes, another one haha, but it looks like I'll be going by "Lady" here which I'm totally fine with. I started publishing JAFF on Ao3, but have recently become obsessed with J&M and NEED to give them some stories!

I have three N&S fics going right now, one being posted chapter by chapter on AO3 called How She Would Love, in which Margaret falls for John the first time she sees him and has to wrangle her feelings in order to stay sane. Sadly, John has been burned and hates anything like flirtation, so he lumps her blushes in with all the others. I would like to keep it lighter-hearted, so I'm taking the death-toll down to one - is that blasphemy in the N&S world??

Another has Margaret realizing her feelings for John while she is unconscious after her blow the day of the riot. But a very bitter Mrs. Thornton keeps John from proposing. How would things have worked out if they did not have the pain and awkwardness of the rejected proposal keeping them apart? There will be Irishmen, truck sales, lots of John and Nicolas time (one of my fave ships tbh :love ), and a period-inappropriate backrub hehe

And the third (actually the first I started!) is a bit heavier, focusing on the hopelessness of Margaret's growing feelings for John after he tells her that any foolish passions for her are over. <I could cry just thinking about it!!> It's called Ashes and Wine and is based partly on the song of that name by A Fine Frenzy. My one-shot Believe, Hope, Endure is actually the first chapter of this fic in the long scheme of things.

Will I ever finish any of them? One of them, yes, just because I've already started posting, but no guarantees on the other two :rofl
Hey, Daisy. How wonderful that we have two Daisy's now. 😄 Wow, I like these stories and would love to read them all. I also like How She Would Love. It's really good. I hope you will finish those two too. I already know that I will read them. Very good ideas. Well done, Lady! 😃❤️ :clap
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AnotherLady wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:59 am Hi all!

Thought I would introduce myself and talk about what's in my Docs folder :) I'm Daisy - yes, another one haha, but it looks like I'll be going by "Lady" here which I'm totally fine with. I started publishing JAFF on Ao3, but have recently become obsessed with J&M and NEED to give them some stories!

I have three N&S fics going right now, one being posted chapter by chapter on AO3 called How She Would Love, in which Margaret falls for John the first time she sees him and has to wrangle her feelings in order to stay sane. Sadly, John has been burned and hates anything like flirtation, so he lumps her blushes in with all the others. I would like to keep it lighter-hearted, so I'm taking the death-toll down to one - is that blasphemy in the N&S world??

Another has Margaret realizing her feelings for John while she is unconscious after her blow the day of the riot. But a very bitter Mrs. Thornton keeps John from proposing. How would things have worked out if they did not have the pain and awkwardness of the rejected proposal keeping them apart? There will be Irishmen, truck sales, lots of John and Nicolas time (one of my fave ships tbh :love ), and a period-inappropriate backrub hehe

And the third (actually the first I started!) is a bit heavier, focusing on the hopelessness of Margaret's growing feelings for John after he tells her that any foolish passions for her are over. <I could cry just thinking about it!!> It's called Ashes and Wine and is based partly on the song of that name by A Fine Frenzy. My one-shot Believe, Hope, Endure is actually the first chapter of this fic in the long scheme of things.

Will I ever finish any of them? One of them, yes, just because I've already started posting, but no guarantees on the other two :rofl
A very warm welcome Daisy or "Lady" :D Sooo nice to see you here and gosh, your story premises sound SO INTRIGUING! I have seen the title of your first fic and it is right up there of my list of fics I WANT to read asap. I have not got around to reading too many recently, because I'm in the midst of editing a big fic and when I'm in that mindset I find it hard to read other stuff. But I will get to it!

Anyway, we're so happy to have you. Feel free to post in any topic or start a new one anytime. We've been trying to come up with new topics to keep this forum going. :)
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AnotherLady wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:59 am Hi all!

Thought I would introduce myself and talk about what's in my Docs folder :) I'm Daisy - yes, another one haha, but it looks like I'll be going by "Lady" here which I'm totally fine with. I started publishing JAFF on Ao3, but have recently become obsessed with J&M and NEED to give them some stories!

I have three N&S fics going right now, one being posted chapter by chapter on AO3 called How She Would Love, in which Margaret falls for John the first time she sees him and has to wrangle her feelings in order to stay sane. Sadly, John has been burned and hates anything like flirtation, so he lumps her blushes in with all the others. I would like to keep it lighter-hearted, so I'm taking the death-toll down to one - is that blasphemy in the N&S world??

Another has Margaret realizing her feelings for John while she is unconscious after her blow the day of the riot. But a very bitter Mrs. Thornton keeps John from proposing. How would things have worked out if they did not have the pain and awkwardness of the rejected proposal keeping them apart? There will be Irishmen, truck sales, lots of John and Nicolas time (one of my fave ships tbh :love ), and a period-inappropriate backrub hehe

And the third (actually the first I started!) is a bit heavier, focusing on the hopelessness of Margaret's growing feelings for John after he tells her that any foolish passions for her are over. <I could cry just thinking about it!!> It's called Ashes and Wine and is based partly on the song of that name by A Fine Frenzy. My one-shot Believe, Hope, Endure is actually the first chapter of this fic in the long scheme of things.

Will I ever finish any of them? One of them, yes, just because I've already started posting, but no guarantees on the other two :rofl
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Philipaholt wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 12:49 pm
AnotherLady wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:59 am
YOU wrote How She Would Love??? Lady, it’s wonderful!
Awww, what a compliment! Thank you, Pippa!!
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Philipaholt wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 12:49 pm YOU wrote How She Would Love??? Lady, it’s wonderful!
Yes, she wrote it and I really like that story very much. Can't wait for next chapter! :love
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Hey gang!

I'm working on North <=> South and I need some encouragement/inspiration. I need to show John's greater understanding of Margaret and vice versa and then their coming together and the resolution of their, uh... predicament.

My muse is jumping ahead to the coming together and resolution and I'm trying to rein her in to establish the mutual greater understanding. Any advice? recommendations? Input of any kind is welcome. And don't worry if you have nothing for me. Just talking about it here is a big help for me, it's like N&S fanfiction therapy LOL! :rofl
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ColleenD wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:18 am Hey gang!

I'm working on North <=> South and I need some encouragement/inspiration. I need to show John's greater understanding of Margaret and vice versa and then their coming together and the resolution of their, uh... predicament.

My muse is jumping ahead to the coming together and resolution and I'm trying to rein her in to establish the mutual greater understanding. Any advice? recommendations? Input of any kind is welcome. And don't worry if you have nothing for me. Just talking about it here is a big help for me, it's like N&S fanfiction therapy LOL! :rofl
Hi Colleen,
I'm not sure how helpful I'll be...but... I've really enjoyed your story so far. It has been quite hilarious. I don't know if you want M to have a better understanding of his responsibilities...or maybe Hannah less slip his feeling for he (thinking she's talking to J) or maybe that he's done something kind like the canteen or something that she didn’t know about him. Perhaps J could learn about how hard M's life is. Anyway...just a few ideas. Feel free to ignore 🤣🤣
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dianakc wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:37 pm
ColleenD wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:18 am Hey gang!

I'm working on North <=> South and I need some encouragement/inspiration. I need to show John's greater understanding of Margaret and vice versa and then their coming together and the resolution of their, uh... predicament.

My muse is jumping ahead to the coming together and resolution and I'm trying to rein her in to establish the mutual greater understanding. Any advice? recommendations? Input of any kind is welcome. And don't worry if you have nothing for me. Just talking about it here is a big help for me, it's like N&S fanfiction therapy LOL! :rofl
Hi Colleen,
I'm not sure how helpful I'll be...but... I've really enjoyed your story so far. It has been quite hilarious. I don't know if you want M to have a better understanding of his responsibilities...or maybe Hannah less slip his feeling for he (thinking she's talking to J) or maybe that he's done something kind like the canteen or something that she didn’t know about him. Perhaps J could learn about how hard M's life is. Anyway...just a few ideas. Feel free to ignore 🤣🤣
I love those ideas!!! Especially the one with Mrs Thornton letting something slip!!
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ColleenD wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:18 am Hey gang!

I'm working on North <=> South and I need some encouragement/inspiration. I need to show John's greater understanding of Margaret and vice versa and then their coming together and the resolution of their, uh... predicament.

My muse is jumping ahead to the coming together and resolution and I'm trying to rein her in to establish the mutual greater understanding. Any advice? recommendations? Input of any kind is welcome. And don't worry if you have nothing for me. Just talking about it here is a big help for me, it's like N&S fanfiction therapy LOL! :rofl
Oh gosh, I don't even know where to start... A conversation with someone in their life seems like where I would start.
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