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In the episode, "It's Only a Beautiful Picture", Doyle appears in a multi coloured jacket as seen here:

[please see Panikos link, directly below]

The style of this jacket would be called a letterman jacket or varsity jacket, in the USA. Why would Doyle be wearing such a jacket [other than the fact he looks great in it]; going for an international look here, or is this a common article of outerwear in some specific UK setting? What would a Brit call this style of jacket? Is there a logo on the shoulder?

I get a 'forbidden' error on that link Asy because they have protected it from hotlinking. The link only works if you have recently visited the site itself.

It's ok though because the whole set can be seen here

Its Only a Beautiful Picture

I don't recognise the jacket and couldn't make out the logo  though I think there is one. A lot of clothes here now have huge logos for the designer, but that was a while ago and probably less common then so I'd think a sports reference.

Definitely a biking jacket, isn't it?  We know Doyle has a 'bike and I've seen m'cyclists in similar.  It would be leather I guess.

Lovely pics those.... I've always liked that episode, in fact IIRC it was the first Pros episode I ever watched and got me well and truly hooked.   :loveeyes

Thanks for input, Panikos and Merry. I think I shall continue to call it a varsity jacket, since there doesn't seem to be any more distinctive term for it.

Now if you don't mind a second question?

In American diners and ice cream parlors, there is a frothy drink we call a "float" which is just soda pop [cola, lemon lime or other soft drink] with a scoop of ice cream floating in it.

Do Brit ice cream parlours serve floats, or is this a strictly-cross-the-pond item. [what I mean actually, is whether they would have been served in the early 1970s?] If not, is there some other frothy drink served as a dessert in the UK?

I know what you mean Asy, and they would have been served at a Milk Bar - something I remember well from my childhood - replaced now in Evil Booze-Culture Britain by Wine Bars, mostly  :(   You used to sit on a high stool and order a Milk Shake, in various virulent banned E-number colours like bright green (supposedly 'Lime') and Day-Glo pink (Raspberry? Strawberry? who knew :lol)

As far as I know a Milk Shake with icecream in it would also have been called a Float.  Pani is even older than I am (not by much ;) ) and might remember also...

Yay, input of the dessert variety. :beer

We would call a "milk shake" something with just ice cream, milk and flavoring, blenderized, and it wouldn't have the fizz factor of soda pop added.

So what you'd call a milk shake would have a carbonated drink added to it? [this is more difficult than chemistry lab, eh?] Which is what we'd call a coke float or a sprite float or a rootbeer float....

I can't recall the names now, but I think we had both kinds back then. I definitely had this version.
In the UK, cream soda was traditionally served with a dessert-spoonful of vanilla ice cream floating on the top, but this has become a rarity. It is vanilla-flavored, slightly glutinous and has a uniquely thick, "soft" and long-lasting foam


I bow to Merry's superior knowledge since she spent much more time than I hanging around in bars  :devil

Actually I 'think' it was an 'ice cream float' regardless of what it was floating in.
I could be fooling myself, but I'm sure I remember coke floats - vanilla ice-cream in a glass of coke. But then, I am originally from a part of the world renowned for having the highest per capita sugar consumption in Europe ...  :D
Oh, I know these ones!

My brother wears that sort of jacket alot when he's riding bike trials or enduros - it's just a "bike jacket" and as far as I know always has been!  Really wouldn't have been a "varsity jacket" over here...  And definitely leather, for protection.

Isn't a milkshake just blended milk, flavouring and ice cream?  No fizz to it...

And I actually had a conversation about ice cream floats when I first came over from Australia, at the very beginning of 1985 (so not *too* long after Pros...)  In Australia we called them "spiders", and I was told over here that they were "ice cream floats", and I've always remembered it!  

I *did* remember noticing that there weren't ice cream parlours though - they seemed to be a very American thing (and I'd always lusted after visiting one... *g*)  But I sat in a caf and had an ice cream float one day!

Merry, I'm fascinated that you say there were "milk bars" in England - I thought that was a specifically Australian thing!  I grew up with them, but never ever heard that term once I was over here...

I've no idea if anyone will see this now, but if they do - *waves* :wave

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